I am credited at the end of this television program, a small sample taped off my own tv in the Fair Use doctrine) Secret Service Agent Clint Hill fibs again…
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Good clip Vince! I just get frustrated when any of the agent(s) say this
about Pres. Kennedy. It’s such a outright lie.
Reading your book Survivors Guilt. Every other page or so, I have to take a
break and cool off.
Hill avoided the windshield bullet hole issue. He should have it if it was
there. If investigative journalists (like Vince) can track down the flight
mission paperwork info on the pilots, the loadmaster & load crew that flew
the parade car back to Washington from Dallas, a living former military
witness might be located. Damaged cargo is a top priority for fed air
transporters; requiring special handling & waivers.
I totally agree…I have seen Film Footage plus Documentaries that show an
Agent about
to Jump onto JFK’s Limo as it leaves Love Field Airport…However…you see
another
Agent who is Riding in the Car behind wave at him not to…It then clearly
shows the Agent
Lift his hands up in Frustration about 3 times at the Order given to him…
hey vince, what do you think of the new book “The Man Who Killed Kennedy:
The Case Against LBJ”.
is it worth a read?
I saw that tonight and thought “What the fuck. Hill will never tell the
truth”!
This is NOT the CAR that JFK was in that DAY in Dallas, it might look it,
but it was totaly rebiult by ford, not by the company that made it into the
car that it represented on that day & before that day, to think all the
Political Assassinations, yet NOT 1 person in a security service that would
think of, WOW he is the most powerful man on this plant re: 1950/60’s,
let’s make sure we have the CAR Bullet proof, that way even by chance if
someone wanted to shoot a penetration bullet even, it wont get through,
NOPE, we believe in keeping the people of the world in the dark, as to the
spying, covert action’s of different government’s around the world, Even
Hitler had a bullet proof car, you would think the rest of the political
POWER broker’s would have the same for Government CARS ? they made sure it
was after Dallas, that car is totally bullet proof NOW, so back then they
had the material, just did not do it, used the Queen Mary till someone said
we need a new car, i wonder who in the white house ordered it & did not
think of bullet proofing it, especially with the COLD WAR, even in West
Berlin, Italy (MOB) he was in a open car, so if the Russians / MOB wanted
to, they could have shot JFK so easy it’s not funny, NO wait we will get a
SALT type person called OSWALD to do it & in Dallas where the eyes r never
off you ?
Besides the usual “JFK ordered agents off the back of the car” BS rhetoric,
this 50th anniversary propaganda seems to be pushing an idea that IF there
was a conspiracy, it must have involved Cuba and/or the Soviets. I’m not
buying it.
Congrats on getting published, Vince!
According to Governor Connally JFK was in Dallas to raise campaign funds
for 2 Democratic candidates. The White House was trying to bring JFK to
favor in the eyes of Texas. Even with LBJ on the ticket in ’60, JFK only
won by 43K votes. The detail was not told by the President not to be on the
car and they were never told he wanted it as such. If an order came from
the White house, to them it was the same as if it came from JFK. They were
attempting to create a friendly atmosphere with the people of Texas and
putting him in a tin can was not the way to do it. BTW Clint Hill was
approached to do the Kennedy Detail book and the only way he would
co-operate was if he was able to fact check it before it was printed. You
give yourself credit for the book because of a letter you wrote him??????
Get over yourself. He was a contributor to a fellow agent who had a
friend’s daughter write the book. Not everything has to be a conspiracy and
Hill only stated what he knew which doesn’t mean he is “fibbing. Just like
in 1912 the world learned the hard way to put enough life boats on an
“unsinkable” ship. In 1963 The USSS learned the hard way to not put a
President in an open top car. In 2001 The FAA learned the hard way to put
an adequately secure cockpit door on commercial aircraft. In 2010 BP
learned the hard way that a $250K safety device could have saved the $42.2
Billion they have spent so far on the Deepwater Horizon rig. If you want to
spend your time chasing fantasy and it makes you feel good, by all means do
it. Just don’t state your opinion as fact when you have only some of the
facts.
SA Roy Kellerman, in charge of the Presidential Detail, told the WC that
Kenny O’Donnell told him that morning in Ft Worth that the top was off if
the weather was fine, and O’Donnell confirmed as much, once again according
to the WC. Kellerman passed this onto SA Win Lawson in Dallas, but it
seems that the bubble-top was yet to be removed. In fact, LBJ’s assistant
Bill Moyers (in Austin at the time) had his assistant take the bubble-top
off while JFK’s walk-about at Love Field was taking place. Would it have
made any difference anyway, if it was on? It would have made a front shot
less likely, but may not have stopped, maybe deflected, a high velocity
shot from behind. Would Moyers have known that?
vince you scored again – because Greer says he saw blood on Connally’s
shirt – and we can easily see when it was that Greer made his one look
back, via Zapruder (you have to hope, anyway) – and this again will
underline the first real shock of seeing that film- that JFK ever reached
for his throat – let alone, as early as he did – at which point Connally,
as he always said himself, had not been hit -